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Having pronouns in a display name is “less than 1 in 1,000 behavior”? I wish I lived in that universe. Not sure what all counts as a display name, but every Zoom I’m on still has multiple participants with their pronouns proudly displayed. Of course, I’m in academia, which may be even more left wing than journalism…
Oh, I think that's Zoom displaying their pronouns next to their names. I assume there's a field or something where people can enter their pronouns? If so, then it would display them like you're seeing.
What I'm referring to is people typing their pronouns as part of their names, so in the name field they'd type "Allison Morrow (she/her)". It's a manual thing. X doesn't display people's pronouns next to their names the way LinkedIn does. It's all manual.
Ok, I was curious so I checked into this in more detail. Zoom does now (but don't know if it always did) have a "Pronouns" field in the profile, if you have a Zoom account. (I have one through work. Not sure how it works if you're just using Zoom casually to join other people's meetings.) If you choose to enter pronouns in your profile (and it's not a drop-down, it's a free-text field, so apparently you could put in whatever the heck you want) you then get the following options:
* Always share in meetings and webinars
* Ask me every time after joining meetings and webinars
* Do not share in meetings and webinars
It also says, "Pronouns are always visible to your contacts on your profile card." I have no idea what a "profile card" is and I don't think I've ever looked at anyone else's "profile card" on Zoom.
Meanwhile, I think that regardless of what you put in your Zoom profile, you can also change your display name while you're in a Zoom meeting by just clicking on it and typing something new. I had assumed that this was what people were doing to put in pronouns, affiliations, credentials, etc.
I've never actively used X, so I don't know anything about how display names work there. But wouldn't it be the case that once people set up their names (and type in their pronouns, should they choose to do so), wouldn't that remain in place unless they actively change it?
Yes, on X whatever you enter as your display name would remain in place until you changed it. I think I'm missing the implication you're drawing, given how you phrased it. It's extremely unusual for people to put their pronouns in their name, at least on X. The only other case I know of is Beth Mole, a science writer for Ars Technica, and she's predictably biased in covering genderism, "gender affirming care", etc.
The stock leftist behavior for a while was to put pronouns in the bio. This is also manual, free form – I think the only fields X has are for location and a link to a website. The rest is a free form paragraph. "Pronouns in bio" became sort of a derogatory meme, and I think there's also been a slight shift away from genderism on the left (maybe very slight), and fewer people seem to have pronouns in their bios now.
Thanks! I'm probably unnecessarily going down a rabbithole here. The only point I was trying to make (apparently not very clearly) is that I don't seem to be observing any trend of people actively *removing* their pronouns from default display names (or other places, e.g., email signature lines, bios), where I presume they put them in some time ago and have not thought about it much since. Certainly, way more than 1/1,000 people with whom I interact online have pronouns readily apparent somewhere. But I think what you're saying is that when people are setting something like that up NOW, they're less likely to make a point of including "their" pronouns. I hope you're right!
As a frequent Zoom user, I don’t think so. I haven’t seen a pronoun field. I think people do have to put it in manually as part of their names. Just as I will sometimes add my employer’s name to my name if I’m on a Zoom meeting with people from lots of different organizations and we may not know each other or who we’re affiliated with.
Having pronouns in a display name is “less than 1 in 1,000 behavior”? I wish I lived in that universe. Not sure what all counts as a display name, but every Zoom I’m on still has multiple participants with their pronouns proudly displayed. Of course, I’m in academia, which may be even more left wing than journalism…
Oh, I think that's Zoom displaying their pronouns next to their names. I assume there's a field or something where people can enter their pronouns? If so, then it would display them like you're seeing.
What I'm referring to is people typing their pronouns as part of their names, so in the name field they'd type "Allison Morrow (she/her)". It's a manual thing. X doesn't display people's pronouns next to their names the way LinkedIn does. It's all manual.
Ok, I was curious so I checked into this in more detail. Zoom does now (but don't know if it always did) have a "Pronouns" field in the profile, if you have a Zoom account. (I have one through work. Not sure how it works if you're just using Zoom casually to join other people's meetings.) If you choose to enter pronouns in your profile (and it's not a drop-down, it's a free-text field, so apparently you could put in whatever the heck you want) you then get the following options:
* Always share in meetings and webinars
* Ask me every time after joining meetings and webinars
* Do not share in meetings and webinars
It also says, "Pronouns are always visible to your contacts on your profile card." I have no idea what a "profile card" is and I don't think I've ever looked at anyone else's "profile card" on Zoom.
Meanwhile, I think that regardless of what you put in your Zoom profile, you can also change your display name while you're in a Zoom meeting by just clicking on it and typing something new. I had assumed that this was what people were doing to put in pronouns, affiliations, credentials, etc.
I've never actively used X, so I don't know anything about how display names work there. But wouldn't it be the case that once people set up their names (and type in their pronouns, should they choose to do so), wouldn't that remain in place unless they actively change it?
Yes, on X whatever you enter as your display name would remain in place until you changed it. I think I'm missing the implication you're drawing, given how you phrased it. It's extremely unusual for people to put their pronouns in their name, at least on X. The only other case I know of is Beth Mole, a science writer for Ars Technica, and she's predictably biased in covering genderism, "gender affirming care", etc.
The stock leftist behavior for a while was to put pronouns in the bio. This is also manual, free form – I think the only fields X has are for location and a link to a website. The rest is a free form paragraph. "Pronouns in bio" became sort of a derogatory meme, and I think there's also been a slight shift away from genderism on the left (maybe very slight), and fewer people seem to have pronouns in their bios now.
Thanks! I'm probably unnecessarily going down a rabbithole here. The only point I was trying to make (apparently not very clearly) is that I don't seem to be observing any trend of people actively *removing* their pronouns from default display names (or other places, e.g., email signature lines, bios), where I presume they put them in some time ago and have not thought about it much since. Certainly, way more than 1/1,000 people with whom I interact online have pronouns readily apparent somewhere. But I think what you're saying is that when people are setting something like that up NOW, they're less likely to make a point of including "their" pronouns. I hope you're right!
As a frequent Zoom user, I don’t think so. I haven’t seen a pronoun field. I think people do have to put it in manually as part of their names. Just as I will sometimes add my employer’s name to my name if I’m on a Zoom meeting with people from lots of different organizations and we may not know each other or who we’re affiliated with.
That said, I set up my Zoom profile so long ago, there may be options now (like pronouns) that weren’t there when I started.
As for LinkedIn, that’s also optional — my profile certainly doesn’t have pronouns displayed.